Wednesday, May 09, 2007

Morgan's Rant To Les Ismore & All 'Progressives'...

"Progressive" vs. "Regressive"

It seems that a commenter here--Les Ismore--has the "REGRESSIVE" & "PROGRESSIVE" labels half right anyway. You know what they say about stopped leftist clocks...

They love to call themselves "PROGRESSIVES" which is a label the commies were once proud to own. They are, in fact, pushing or PROGRESSING America towards a form of totalitarianism. Call it the death of a thousand cuts to our form of Constitutional freedom. "PROGRESS" to the vast majority of leftists is a freedom-destroying nanny state where capitalism and economic free enterprise are spat upon and regulated into inevitable collapse. To achieve this end, they wage relentless class warfare, pitting the "fortunate" and the "less fortunate." This way, when the "less fortunate" are whipped into a self-righteous fury by people like John 'The-Breck-Girl' Edwards, the first thing they vote for are tax hikes on the "fortunate." "We'll get them by God!"

Is this a dishonest way of looking at wealth differences? Of course, but the left specializes in dishonesty.

(I do all right here in North FL, and I don't remember standing in the "fortunate" line six years ago when I was nearly broke and my cards were max'd out!)

WE conservatives are also REGRESSIVES in some ways. For instance, I would absolutely LOVE to eliminate half of the federal government! I would love to REGRESS, or cut the size and scope of the state--and especially the federal behemoth government--to a pre WWII level. This idea scares the dog squeeze out of the left! Hank Snow, at FPM, once told me that my desired budget cutting was the most immoral thing he had ever heard of! Sadaam didn't seem to register as immoral to old Hank-the-Pinko.

I would love to "REGRESS" to a time where the Constitution was read literally, a time before leftist Supremes channeled 'abortion' from 'privacy'--which wasn't even in the Constitution. When leftists mangle the meaning of the Constitution, they weaken it. Maybe that was their intent all along.

Here's another area where I would love to "REGRESS": civility and patriotism. I consider it my duty to be uncivil to the unpatriotic, while being civil to everyone else. PROGRESSIVE behavior goes waaaay beyond simple policy differences. The political left is currently working hard for the defeat of American soldiers fighting a bunch of nihilistic head-chopping savages! These Islamic barbarians are some of the most sadistic and misogynistic sons-of-bitches the world has ever seen, but the left takes their side against our blessed country.

I'll be civil to patriots, uncivil to leftists working for our defeat! If that's "REGRESSIVE" then that's me!!


Anonymous les ismore said...

But what have YOU done for the war on terror? Putting a yellow ribbon on your car doesnt count. Would you be willing to pay more taxes if you knew that they would go directly to fight the GWOT?
Simple question, yes or no.

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am hopping on your regressive wagon , MORGAN.

Great stuff as always.


7:04 PM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

Spell my name 'regressive', too!

7:06 PM  
Anonymous Honor Thy Country said...

Les, we already pay the majority of the taxes. We aren't on the dole or riding in the wagon, we're in front of the wagon pulling it. You liberals love governmental assistance and entitlements. You've always got your hands out, looking for a free hand out. We're paying for the war on terror. Who do you think funds the military, the government? Where do you think the government gets its funds? From us; the productive, hard-working, tax-paying, contributing members of American society. We don't need to pay higher taxes to win the war on terror, we're already winning it. The only way we lose this war is to stop fighting it. Like you liberals convinced us to do during Viet Nam. No Les Ismore, we don't need to pay MORE, we need to FIGHT more. You liberals are afraid to do that though, aren't you? Well, that's okay, you don't have to fight, others will fight for you. Just sit down and be quiet. Let the real men do the fighting. And Les, be sure and put your yellow ribbon on, we won't be wearing those, because we'll be wearing the uniform.

7:13 PM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

Um... LIM... Morgan was in Desert Storm, he spent 6 years in the Navy, his son is a firefighter, and his sister and brother were both officers in the military. I believe his family has done MORE than their part in defending America.

Even now, Morgan greets troops coming home--and over Christmas, he organized our whole blog family into sending supplies and treats to the men fighting overseas. I know, we sent a boxful of stuff.

Morgan would do ANYTHING to defend this country--ANYTHING. He'd fight 'em bare-knuckled if it came to that. He is the dead LAST person you need to ask "What have you done?".

7:16 PM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

Welcome, Honor Thy Country! You will always have a home and friends here! You sure bitch-slapped the hell out of him!

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What have I done?
Thanks for asking les. Number one I've paid a TON of taxes in the last four years, successful businessmen do that. Second, my family has sent numerous care packages to different units in Iraq and Afghanistan. My sister and I both still have friends who remained in service when we got out. I served for 6 years, she was in 22.
Would I pay more taxes? I've paid more taxes every single year for six straight years les! Now if some Dem socialist raised the RATE to 40-55%, good Americans would find ways to "circumvent" those usurous? fees...

Let me address your misinformation though. Tax dollars do NOT go directly to fight the GWOT les. ALL TAX DOLLARS go into the general fund, no matter what the lying AlGores of the world tell you about "social security lockboxes." They can be called ANYTHING at the point of collection, but those dollars ultimately go into the general fund.
How else are pols going to buy votes if not with this or that FEE?

Batya and DONAL there's always room for good loooking woman on the band wagon!

Mr. Honor, well said!


7:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DONAL I just read all of those very nice things you said, thanks!


7:52 PM  
Anonymous z said...

'Honor thy Country' and humbles me just to read your posts. THank God this country still has patriots like you.

les....some of us think paying taxes isn't a sacrifice, it's just something we all do; time and energy is a sacrifice. And, by the way, just watching the leftist news and hearing Pelosi and Reid speak is quite a sacrifice, too. TRUST me. SOmetimes, I think I"d rather enlist.

But, the real sin is THEY have to listen, too. WHat DISHONOR to our country that our soldiers have to listen, too.

God bless America.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said , Morgan the Patriot.

10:07 PM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

We're ALL patriots in MY house...

11:36 PM  
Anonymous Les Ismore said...

Let me address your misinformation. I asked a simple question, would you pay more taxes if you knew it would go directly to fight the GWOT on terror. Well, after some dancing around the issue, your answer was a big fat resounding NO. Great Jingo, thanks for your contribution to not only GWOT but reducing the deficit that your children and mine will have to pay down. As usual you regressives cannot answer a question directly, simply dance around, repeat the talking GOOPER talking points and do NOTHING. I dont care about what you did 15 years ago, I want to know what you did last week. And would you contribute more. I would. I support paying for this war, not putting it on the credit card. Why cant you? Be a man, step up to the plate and contribute to the GWOT. I pay alot of taxes too, probably much more than you realize, but I will contribute as a patriotic American to the war effort.
Please, cut the phony 'rants' and step up to the plate!

2:54 AM  
Anonymous Les Ismore said...

But thank you for the gift boxes to the troops. As you know, I lost my nephew in Iraq and those little things are important. By the way, he was a proud Democrat, like most of the ground troops. Good kids from good families. He paid the ultimate price and his mother and family grieve every day.

I know that thinking that the troops could be Democrats makes most people on this blog head explode but it is true, and you dishonor the service of every brave young man and woman who voted for a Democrat and their families who voted for Democrats with your hatred of them and their families and their values. Shameful.

3:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Les sorry about your nephew. His loss must be devastating. At our dinner table we say prayers for the troops EVERY night. We pray for the majority(Republican) AND the minority(Dems). AlGore seems to know this too. Just look at how he tried to have their absentee ballots excluded in the 2000 elections. All of the troops defending freedom are the same to me.

I had three uncles who fought in WWII and two who also fought in Korea, Vietnam and the Dominican Republic. My dad fought in Korea and came home to work for civil rights at the U of MN. My sister and I were in the Gulf War and I was on countless counter narcotics operations. It may interest you to know that we were ALL DEMOCRATS!!
None of us are anymore.

Yes lester, there was a time when even stateside Dems remained true to their country. Sadly, this no longer the case. Bill Clinton and Rush Limbaugh were the ones that shook me out of my slumber.

You didn't seem to like my tax answer. Tough s--t! I have paid more taxes EACH year for the last 6 years. Not only that, this coming year is shaping up to be my biggest year ever, and those quarterly checks to the IRS are tough to write. Frankly, the Federal government hasn't EARNED that large a chunk of my life!

You and most socialists are just DYING to increase the tax rates (see my class warfare rant) while this increase would hit the working man the hardest. So the answer is NO!! I refuse to increase the tax RATE on the people who work the hardest and drive this economy. The harder my guys work, the more money they make, and the more taxes they pay.

You seem to be asking me if I'm willing to reach deeper into my fellow man's pocket and take an ever larger portion of HIS/HER life to give to pols to spend as they see fit. LOL! Are you kidding me?! That's the theft committed by socialists. Not freedom-loving Americans. Take your banal class warfare elsewhere.

Let's institute the FairTax.


4:08 AM  
Anonymous Les Ismore said...

As a fellow vet, I thank you and your family for their service to our nation. I personally believe there should be some compulsory national service, much like in Israel, but that is another topic.

And thank you for your thoughts on my nephew. He was a good, upright, all-American kid. His mother (my sister) is devastated. There isnt a day that goes by that we all grieve. She cant watch the news anymore. We just lost a couple of kids in the last 2 weeks in some neighboring communities.

The reason you pay more taxes the more you make is simple. It is called a progressive tax. Insituted as part of the New Deal.
Secondly, I have been incredibly blessed in our country. Like you, I was in a small company that was extremely succussful in the 90's.
My simple question was would you pay more in taxes if you knew it would go DIRECTLY to the GWOT. My answer was yes, absolutely. I'm still not sure what yours was but I think one of the problems with the way Bush has conducted this war (besides all of the incompetence and refusing to listen to the commanders on the ground) was that he called for no national sacrifice other than the blood of our children.

I find the idea of a flat tax interesting. No deductions, period.

4:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A flat tax IS preferable to the current miserable system, but the FairTax is even bettter. Go to and check it out les. Customers call, gotta go.


4:43 AM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

ZinLA, you said 'Honor thy Country' and humbles me just to read your posts. THank God this country still has patriots like you.

That's why I bother to blog; I'd like to think I'm pretty patriotic myself!

6:49 AM  
Anonymous z said...

Verityink? You, patriotic? OF COURSE YOU ARE..YOU are the QUEEN OF THE PATRIOTS!!!

I only didn't include you because I was strictly sticking to the posts here about it...sorry!

I bow to you, Oh, Queen...By the way, tell us about what they're covering at DU these days...!!!!!


7:02 AM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

Z--I'll be writing it up for a top post--I did an interesting experiment with DU....

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Morgan,great post.Liberals can't call themselves what they really are so they call themselves ''progressives''. Progressing, as you say, towards totalitarinism. I believe in questioning the ''patriotism'' of those who give aid and comfort to our enemy. I was uncivil to say the least to types like "dubya'' and others at FPM because they could never find anything good to say about America. J"Mac.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Les, that "would you be willing to pay more taxes to...'', I've been hearing that line from libs and socialists for nearly forty years before 9/11 and the GWOT. For everything from the ''Great Society'' and the creation of the welfare state to Vietnam. And always its defense spending that gets the libs going crazy. Why is that? Johnnymac.

6:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Johnny how are you bubba?! That rant I wrote was straight from the heart. "Regressive" seems to be a trial balloon that the lefties are floating. It's amazing how they march in such lockstep. You and I know in our BONES what's right and wrong, do yo remember the last time you considered POLITICS on a moral issue? LOL!
These are strange creatures that we argue with homeboy...


7:02 PM  
Anonymous Les Ismore said...

Hey J'Mac,
Yeah, it is an old argument which the regressives can never seem to answer. You always want something for nothing. Tax cuts cure everything right? GWOT? Tax cut is just what we need to show the terrorists that we mean business. You are just laughable. Your comic book responses to everything; simplistic, unreasoned, and just silly. So, once again, if you KNEW that your tax increase would go directly to fighting terrorism, would you pay more in taxes? Or would you rather have your kids, Morgans kids and mine pay for it? Pretty straight forward question but it seems none of you here can answer with a yes or no. I can say that my answer would be yes. A resounding yes. I would hope it would pay for body armor for our troops, better equipment for our men and women fighting the war on terror and more. Why do you hate America so much that you wont pay your share?

5:10 AM  
Anonymous Morris Less said...

We do pay our share and more. It is you lefties that want handouts. I wont pay more in taxes for the GWOT because I know the traitorous Democratic congress would use the money for something like global warming or health care for children, anything to keep us from winning in Iraq.

5:43 AM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

LIM--Do not call us 'regressives' on this board any longer--or I'll allow YOU all to be called worse--and then we'll have a real rock-throw. Any posts referring to us as 'regressives' again will be removed without comment.

7:11 AM  
Anonymous bobcat said...

Donal, if we're to be called regressives, call theleftists by their old name - communists.

7:12 AM  
Anonymous Les Ismore said...

You seemed to embrace that term in this post and a few upstream. Unlike most of your posters, I stay away from the childish name calling (dhimmocrat, democRAT, etc.). Everyone seems to enjoy wearing it proudly, Morgan even wrote a long post about how he is proud to be regressive.

9:28 AM  
Blogger VerityINK said...

Perhaps, but you're rancor is quickly turning it into a pejoritive--don't use it.

6:53 PM  

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