Iconoclast vs. The Patriot

Iconoclast63 Responds to The Stupidest Post Of the Day:

(At: http://dudratreview.blogspot.com/2007/12/stupidest-post-of-day-kumbaya-works.html#links)

Calling this the Stupidest Post of the Day illustrates very clearly the type of sentiment that will, if left unchecked, assure this country remains perpetually at war.

The list of atrocities you mentioned are a SYMPTOM of an illness, not the illness itself. Why the US? Why not China, or Sweden, or Costa Rica for that matter? Why have the "enemies" focused their hatred on us? There has to be a reason, right?

Just like WWII. I find it astonishing that most American's never even consider what would have motivated the Japanese to attack us. They attacked, and that is the end of it. Does that even make sense that Japan would attack us for no apparent reason?

Let's see, we were building bases across the Pacific and trying to cut off their oil supplies from Burma. Hmmm. We relocated the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor, cutting the distance almost in half from our fleet and theirs. They obviously, correctly or incorrectly, believed they had no choice but attack.

Perhaps we should stop being so blindly patriotic that we can't be honest about why we are "The Great Satan". Maybe if we make an accurate diagnosis we can cure the disease and stop bringing our kids home in plastic bags.

Iconoclast63

My Answer To Him As The Patriot:

Icon63--YOU and YOURS are The Great Satan; the brave men who created this country, defend this country, and run this country today are NOT. I know of no such designation that is deserved by this nation--no matter which President and administration (Dem/GOP/or Whig) that was/is ascendant.

I have no need to create a faux-enemy inside this country (or outside of it; it is the Islamist who say they are OUR enemy, not US saying we are THEIRS) in order to expiate my guilt for having been born into the greatest, most properous, freest nation on earth.

I look at the tremendous gift the United States is to the world and I don't need to dwell endlessly over the faults of the men who run it. I don't uselessly expect my Presidents--GOP or Dem--to be perfect and act flawlessly--and I don't try to ruin them if they don't. America is a good place, a good country--and fears about our power, and jealousy over our wealth and freedom--is more than enough to explain any derision from overseas.

What is harder to explain is the Leftist, traitorous derision America's own citizens dish out on a daily basis--(and mostly because a GOP President is in the White House.)

I don't need government to continually rescue me; I am here to serve America--I do not expect social programs, welfare nanny statism and America to serve ME.

You flipdip hippy wannabe's (or retreads, if you're old enough) have a silly notion that war against the USA is only in the minds' of the Republicans--you listen not to the words out of the mouths of the Islamists THEMSELVES.

You can't stand the idea of having a for-real enemy, because you don't have any idea what you'd DO with an enemy; strong self-defense is NOT your forte. Thus, you use the well-known defense mechanisms (the only 'defenses' you're likely to use) and you either hide your heads in the sand and deny, or you project the locus of control of any war (cause-and-effects-and-aftermath) upon America alone. It's the only way you can maintain an illusion of control.

You think that, in order to have no war on earth, WE simply need to stop doing things that 'cause' it. You think it won't exist if WE only 'act right'. You're so scared of war, you think we HAVE to be in total control over it, have caused it all, so WE control whether it is a threat or not. Your overly-stroked inner child simply won't believe that we truly do not have that in our control.

You ignore eons of history where other people and nations have had unfathomable reasons for wanting to conquer us--and they always will. For all your supposed multi-culti knowledge, you have a woefully slim idea of what goes on in the human psyche; you are so egocentric, you think everyone is just like you.

If you want to know what kind of country America truly is, take a boat and row it around our great continent. See which way the rafts are coming, which way the planes full of immigrants are flying, which fences they are trying to cross under in the dark of night, and at risk of their lives.

When something happens in the world, see whose phone rings first, see which way the frightened, hurt, or crying eyes turn--it is not away from the United States, but towards us (and NOT China, Sweden or Costa Rica, for that matter). It's not blind patriotism that knows these things and loves this country for them--but every single person on the face of the earth, when push comes to shove (except in the minds of you spoiled Lefties who already have the advantages--and a country to defend you--of which others can only dream.)

A strong national defense ensures we keep these things--for ourselves AND others. You can't say, in the same breath that President Bush 'should have done something in advance to stop 9/11' and then work to help him lose the war in Iraq, and decry his every attempt to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons NOW. Just what do you think 'in advance' means? What do you think it looks like?

From all the whining you Lefties are doing about our actions overseas, I can't help but think that any moves he would've made to stop 9/11, had that been possible, would have been met with the same hateful, cowardly rhetoric, Congressional opposition, and moves to impeach him. You simply have NO conception of what it takes to adequately defend ourselves in a nuclear age.

The only 'disease' America has is whatever crawled out of a bong in the 1960's and still continues to infest popular culture. When that thinking, and those who think it, die out, America will be a lot better off. The next generation that takes your place won't so stupidly call our men and women who choose to fight for us, because they have the guts to do so and they believe in us, 'kids'--and they'll give them, and this country, the honor and respect it has earned.

VerityINK